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Ramez Mikhail

posted on Jan 17, 2003 - 11:31 PM

HALLIIIILOIA!!!! OH YEAH......ALRIGHT.....

HA....HA...HA........WELCOME MAN....I FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO SEEMS TO HAVE EVERYTHING I EVER DREAMED OF IN A CHURCH IN THE WHOLE U S OF A

GOOD JOB

AND DID U SAY ANOK PE PIKOJI WAS UR FAVORITE HICS RECORDING??? WELL. WELCOME TO MY WORLD IT IS AMY FAVORITE

ok..so u read my post about how we used to say apocalypse in egypt...did anything arouse ur curiosity at all...i am sure nobody does it the way we used to..well, finally someone replied to my post with the same topic i actually made

no offence to anybody

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PaulS

posted on Jan 18, 2003 - 12:16 AM

Hey Stephen,

Welcome to the forums! I'm so glad you decided to join us. I look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

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Ramez Mikhail

posted on Jan 18, 2003 - 04:05 PM

hey guys....i just heared how arsani says revelation replies..it is pretty much like HICS in tune but absolutely not in how he applies the tune to the words...and it is really boring too, just slow

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PaulS

posted on Jan 18, 2003 - 09:37 PM

Ramez,

I think he's going slow there just so people can learn. It IS an instructional web site, you know.

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Stephen

posted on Jan 19, 2003 - 05:03 AM

Ramez, I'm glad we're on the same page! I've actually heard so many different ways for the Bright Saturday chants/responses though that it doesn't even strike my curiosity anymore. We used to say some Arabic responses years ago in my church which had some ridiculous melodies! That's why once we had the HICS recordings, we went with it 100% - almost to bring integrity back to the responses of the service (and we are hard core HICS advocates). I haven't heard the Ibrahim Ayed recordings yet - anyone know if there's anything useful that's not on the HICS set (like the rest of Panouti Panouti)? I have a M. Tewfik bright saturday tape on the way in the mail - but that's more for pleasure than for learning.

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PaulS

posted on Jan 19, 2003 - 05:13 AM

We'll have the full Mu'allim Tewfik hymnody (every hymn for every occasion he recorded) as well as that of Mu'allim Farag online very soon.

I just don't want to make them available in bits and pieces, because it will be a miraculous achievement to have them both here. Also, I am working with new software to digitally remaster them and make them sound wonderful.

Thankfully, Bright Saturday is months away...

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Ramez Mikhail

posted on Jan 19, 2003 - 03:52 PM

no stephen..unfortunately i havent haeared the ibrahim set of bright saturday, nor mllm tawfik. but i have the HICS tape with all the revelation replies.

i guess u have read post of how we used to say it in my church in egypt. that is one way i heared , i also heared how they say it in beni suef and we did it theirt way once and of course the standard HICS way. i am just curios how everybody does it cuz i am an absolute fan of apocalypse hymns..

any info on anok ainav??

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Andrew

posted on Feb 02, 2003 - 10:22 PM

M.Ibrahim's tapes for apocalypse are no that bad. I am not exactly his greatest advocate but I would say his apocalypse tapes are the best he ever made..in my opinion obviously. Its mostly to do with pace and timing in that he actually says the hymns at a decent speed you would say in church not like the rest of his slooooooow tapes. He does do all os Panouti Panouti but I just want to point out that the stops are his own just like anybody who says it. Panouti Panouti is not a tuaght hymn rather the words are put on 1 of 2 tunes either Pi Ehmot Gar (long) or E-Agapi. It was nice and interesting to hear those tapes I must say.

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Ramez Mikhail

posted on Feb 03, 2003 - 02:28 AM

i used to have a tape with all revelation replies in standard tune and beni suef tune together with evol hiten but i gave it to a teacher befre i came here..too bad, i just thought about how much i could have shared if i had all the tapes i had in egypt with all the new hymns uploading forum

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CopticEgyBrother911

posted on Feb 16, 2004 - 04:10 AM

I think a very good example of the hymns becoming different out of Cairo, is in Alexandria's case.. and im sure many other cities in Egypt, when you go around to different areas, the hymns have changed so much because there was no strong way of communication between areas, so soon the hymns differentiated a little at a time.. and im sure Arsani.. can give you a better background then i can.. but perhaps Mu'allim Tewfik's original home was in one of these areas, where the hymns had changed..

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petros04

posted on Feb 16, 2004 - 05:27 AM

Don't you guys think that honestly if we want to look for old hymns or the correct way to say hymns we should look in Alexandria because originially that's where our church started and only recently (within 50 years) moved to Cairo?

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CopticEgyBrother911

posted on Feb 16, 2004 - 10:19 PM

no, this is not what happened, Cairo did not change the hymns.. when the Patriarch was in Alexandria, our church was in a hymnal slumber... then Pope (i forget) sent Mu'allim Michael and a few other Mu'alllims all over Egypt collecting all the hymns.. and by the time this was done, the Patriarch had moved to Old Cairo.. and then the long process of recording and setting a standard came into place, but Alexandria really had no communication methods with the Patriarch after the move, so with the hymns they knew, after a while changes occured..

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asinner

posted on Jul 04, 2005 - 06:51 PM

you guys this is sad
its not the tunes in a hymns you must look for yet the words that are being said

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